Is Canvassing a Waste of Time?

I did a bit of election-day GOTV canvassing for Craig Johnson's successful NY state senate campaign. While I have a strong aversion to being yelled at by strangers and long ago gave up on phone banking, I was asked to canvass targeted Democratic-registered voters a neighborhood and decided to give it a try. While the experience was not without interesting moments, it was, on the whole, extremely unpleasant. It also got me wondering whether the traditional, intrusive GOTV tactics of canvassing and phone banking in a media-saturated world may be ineffective at best and strategically detrimental at worst.

I'm curious whether anyone in the MyDD community has hard, empirical evidence about the effectiveness of canvassing and phone banking. While there are a wide variety of anecdotes of individuals who seem to have responded positively to calls or visits, I wonder whether there is any data that can isolate the contribution of canvassing/phone-banking to actual votes within the context of a larger campaign effort and larger social and political forces. It's something we just seem to accept as part of politics without ever asking whether it makes a positive contribution toward the larger goal.

Update 2/8/07: I was pleasantly surprised by the positive and negative response to this diary. A couple of folks posted links to research that points to canvassing as an extremely effective campaign technique:

Get Out the Vote! How to Increase Voter Turnout is a book by Donald Green and Alan Gerber (a couple of professors of political science at Yale) that gives the general rate of votes per canvassing "contact" as 1/14. They have an associated website as well.

An Analysis of the Michigan Democratic Party's 2002 Youth Coordinated Campaign by Ryan Friedrichs (a Harvard student) looks at a specific effort and also finds canvassing to be the most effective campaign tool, in terms of bang for buck.

Since I do not have a Political Science background, I am ill-equipped to offer a rigorous critique of these or any of the myriad studies that can be pulled up by googling "campaign effectiveness". However, I do have some concerns about how dogmatically canvassing can be extolled given the difficulty of isolating its effects within the context of complex and widely differing live campaigns. Also, I have yet to see anything addressing the issue of whether canvassing as part of the increasingly frequent saturation campaigns contributes to a deeper, long-term disdain for politics within the electorate.

Aeolus shared some insight from his experiences as a candidate that seems to offer the most practical perspective on canvassing. When done by experienced neighborhood-based volunteers in an organized, targeted manner as part of a well-structured campaign effort, there's nothing that beats it as a tactic.

However, in a situation like mine this week: A novice canvasser with minimal skills, canvassing alone in an unfamiliar, insular neighborhood that had been canvassed multiple times before, canvassing late on a weekday on the coldest day of the year in a brutal media-saturated campaign only three months after an even more brutal national election...I was destined cause nothing but pain. It is an experience I will go to great lengths to avoid repeating in the future and I urge you to be similarly cautious.


In my particular scenario on Tuesday, I was assigned a list of registered Democratic voters over a five street area in an quiet, older inner-ring suburban neighborhood. The afternoon was relatively peaceful since 80% of the households were at work and the remaining 20% were generally pleasant homemakers (of both genders) and seniors.

But when people started coming home from work, the effort became much more confrontational. While there were a handful of supportive responses to my brief, pleasant greeting and reminder to vote, the bulk of the reactions ranged from resigned acceptance at best ("Yes, I voted. You're the third person that's come by.") to open hostility at worst ("Oh, all this campaigning, it's so annoying ...it's so annoying...it's so annoying"). The reception was so troubling that I decided to bail early and wait at my assigned polling spot to monitor the close out and report the precinct returns.

I assume that the perception is that canvassing still retains qualities that separate it from other outreach techniques and permit it to break through the noise and filters that characterize a culture overwhelmed by an infestation of advertising. As direct person-to-person retail politics, it adds a human face to campaigns that have largely become hours of slick television ads and mountains of shiny, content-free printed literature. Occasionally, canvassers have the opportunity to engage individual voters in meaningful discussions that hearken back to a simpler (and, perhaps, mythological) day of more robust civil discourse and engagement.

But my experience on Tuesday and at times in the past is that canvassing (and it's slightly younger sister phone banking) is perceived by the vast majority of attackers and victims as an obnoxious intrusion into personal time and space. I am concerned that rather than stirring up a reluctant hornet's nest of political involvement, canvassing simply gives the appearance of activity while yielding few extra votes.

Even worse, canvassing and phone-banking in high profile races may cause increasing numbers of voters and volunteers to develop a strong negative association of politics with annoyance rather than an opportunity to shape public policy in a positive way. This ultimately favors a Republican party that thrives on vote suppression and can redirect misanthropic rage into the dismantling of programs and institutions devoted to the common good. Voters pull up the drawbridge, leaving a widening moat that fosters an arms race in increasingly outrageous tactics, furthering disengagement by the electorate as a whole. Even if it does have some effect, like negative advertising, the long-term price paid for short-term victory may be too high.

As a fundamental campaign technique, canvassing also dissuades involvement by potential activists of all ages who, like me, find these traditional campaign techniques to be overwhelmingly distasteful. While there are many extroverts who relish the confrontation and engagement, I suspect that there are a number of good potential volunteers who never get involved because the only work available for them is activity they find offensive. This is, perhaps, even more prevalent in a Democratic party that attracts people who have a stronger sense of empathy and devotion to a quiet inner world of ideas than their boisterous Republican brethren. And people who try to live their lives by the golden rule will not canvass and telemarket when they don't want to be canvassed or telemarketed to themselves.

The prototypical canvassing effort focuses on suburban neighborhoods. Suburban residents like detached single-family housing because it allows them to disconnect from the community and have more control over their interaction with the outside world. They want to live in their artificial, isolated peace - going to work, helping the kids with their homework, and then retreating into the zombified solace of their home theatre. When armies of alien strangers descend on their enclaves with armfuls of litter-ature and forced charm, the visitors and their ideas will be greeted as invaders and rejected. Notice the militaristic, negative language often associated with canvassing - fighting the good fight, out in the trenches, you're a trooper. We've had enough war over the past four years.

Conscientious voters in highly publicized campaigns do not need a reminder to vote. The number of swing voters in highly polarized campaigns whose minds can be changed by a stranger's knock on the door is probably minimal. At best, canvassing and phone banking can only have a positive effect on a small number of undecided or apathetic voters who will respond positively to nagging. Canvassing gives the public impression of activity and vitality, but activity and progress are two different things.

I do suspect that canvassing may have value in low-profile, off-year elections for down-ticket campaigns that have a dedicated nucleus of volunteers but a limited amount of cash. In those situations, the effort may be presenting genuinely new information. But, again, many communities have become so jaded by past campaigns that they are impervious.

As with so many things in politics, it is alot easier to curse the darkness than offer creative, positive candles to light the way forward. I have no novel ideas about how to run campaigns in a way that avoids the pitfalls listed above. We are a culture that has grown more attracted to "pull" media (like the Internet or on-demand programming) that gives the target some control of the content, rather than traditional "push" media where the control of content is almost entirely in the hands of the content provider. But there are a number of low-confrontation techniques that I have found personally more pleasant, although I have no data to back up their effectiveness in actually changing or producing votes:

Kids Waving Campaign Signs on Busy Street Corners: I always feel bad for the people I see doing this, but it certainly gets more attention than yet another sign stapled to a telephone pole. The feedback of drivers honking back (and occasionally flipping you off) creates that desired illusion of public engagement. This, of course, requires volunteers with a knack for clowning and a tolerance for public humiliation. Ballyhoo is a lost art in our automobile-centric culture, but I still suspect that it retains some of it's power.

Literature Drops: It's canvassing without some of the invasive baggage. On a pleasant weekend day when folks are out in the yard, there are some opportunities for direct contact, but the target remains in control of the interaction. Many folks find fliers on their doorknobs annoying, but certainly less than a knock on the door that interrupts dinner, a video or a phone conversation. Wouldn't an early-morning flier on a car windshield reminding a voter to vote engender less hostility than a dinnertime interruption?

Polling Site "Presence": I did some of this in the Lamont primary and general and liked it. It creates the illusion of community support while allowing the voter to determine the level of engagement. While having little value as a GOTV technique (since it only targets people who are voting), I would like to think that it could have some positive effect on the surprising number of folks in closely-contested races who walk into a polling place without complete certainty of who they will vote for. It's a generally pleasant social activity as well (I had a great discussion with a Lie-berman staffer) and the feedback you get will almost always be positive (voters for your opponent will simply avert their eyes and walk past you).

Personal letters: Direct-mail is an increasing arms race with questionable returns. Since the advent of the Internet, 90% of the snail-mail I get is direct mail that goes directly into recycling with only a cursory glance. But hand-written, personalized letters supposedly have a slight edge in eyeball-time. This is labor-intensive and time-consuming, but if a campaign has the bodies, it has proven to be a pleasant activity for those folks who refuse to canvass or phone.

Personalized e-mail: I recently had some modest success in a volunteer recruitment effort using a targeted database and a simple PHP program that permitted me to send bulk e-mail that was less spam-like. The key seemed to be making it appear less like machine generated e-mail than something sent by a human being. The message was brief, direct and free from obvious rhetoric. The database allowed me to do a mail merge, appending a salutation of the addressee's first name (but no "Dear", which is a flag for spam filters). The data I was using was a target list of uncertain origin that seemed to be people who had donated to campaigns in the past or had signed up to be on candidate mailing lists. The body was plain text with no images or HTML. The customized program (rather than a traditional mailing list program) left the header free of signatures that are usually associated with bulk e-mail programs. I used a legitimate personal e-mail address as the sender. The resulting e-mails looked like they were sent by a real human being and I promptly followed up on responses with a hand-written reply of thanks for the response. (The 2% response rate was above average for direct e-mail) While the ultimate aim of the effort was recruiting volunteers for traditional campaign techniques, I wonder whether this concept could be extended to the targeting of voters.

Perhaps the holy grail of campaigning will be the construction of a grassroots social network powered less by traditional media than by direct communication between people with the Internet as a communications medium. Rove's targeting of one of the few remaining social organizations to survive American suburbanization (the conservative church) was certainly effective in 2000 and 2004 and might still be today if the product he was selling wasn't so fundamentally defective. There is a nascent effort in the progressive church that holds some promise. And a network of grassroots volunteers who are attracted by pleasant campaign activities will ultimately serve as a social foundation for building a strong, organic and durable progressive movement that can heal the wounds wrought by the conservative movement and move America into a more democratic era that is better able to handle the challenges that face us ahead.


A postscript for those not familiar with Johnson/O'Connell race: Newly elected New York Democratic governor Eliot Spitzer, in a deft political move, appointed Long Island Republican state senator Michael Balboni, an 18-year legislative veteran, as the state's new Homeland Security director. This left a state senate open in a blue-trending 7th Senatorial District, made all the more important by the fact that the Republicans held a razor-thin 33 to 28 majority in the state senate (the house is Democratically-controlled). The potential for chipping away at that lead gave hope for a future legislature in Albany that will be both more friendly to Spitzer's proposals and more willing after the 2010 census to undo the radical upstate gerrymandering that favors Republican congressmen. The 7th senate district is a aging inner-ring suburban district with majority Democratic registration. While the lesser-of-two-evils choice was between family legacy Craig Johnson and machine tool Maureen O'Connell, the larger strategic issues propelled this obscure race into unusually high visibility, resulting in a campaigning blitz that will end up costing over 1.5 million dollars. Johnson won the race 26,354 to 22,919.



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Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? (none / 0)

I've thought about this too given my limited time canvassing.

There are metasocietal issues here obviously, in that people are more likely to listen to the tv or the internet then people from within their own community, but I don't know that simply ignoring that will really change it.

In my anecdotal experience with this sort of thing, people (for whatever reason, good or bad) have become very shrewd when filtering things out.  Junk mail is junk, junk calls are hung up on, random people at the door are dismissed.

As to the specific point of canvassing, there are probably two roads to go.  One option is to stop canvassing- it's a lot of manhours for questionable gain.  The other is to amp it up tremendously.  Get people used to their community being a part of things.  This is obviously much more difficult because you need, you know, people to do it.  The biggest problem I find with canvassing is that, in the large scale it's kinda done half-assed. I'm not nearly as cynical as I once was, but it's still gonna be tough to convince me that this is a big community thing if it's someone I've never met and won't see again for two years.  If it were people who also were naturally integrated into things outside of electiontime, political or not, that'd be a nice start.


by Lucas O'Connor on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 12:42:53 PM EST

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I think your comments bring up a question about what canvassing is. Since I live in a "safe" district, my efforts have usually been where I parachute in to canvass strangers (often in low-income neighborhoods) and then come back to base. If the person at their door were a neighbor, the reception would be totally different. But, then, a neighbor in a contemporary suburb probably wouldn't canvass in that traditional way. Campaigning within a social network would be more subtle and move away from the front door and into the few remaining shared physical areas where neighbors cross paths - the day care center, a kids' soccer game, the pantry at work. And in those scenarios, a small campaign button or bumper sticker might be a more effective conversation starter than a hard-sell, evangelical pitch.

Yeah, I think "half-assed" is a good description of the well-meaning but, probably, ineffective efforts I've been a part of.


by ProgressiveChristian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 01:10:45 PM EST
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Campaigning within a social network would be more subtle and move away from the front door and into the few remaining shared physical areas where neighbors cross paths

That might actually be a better way to focus canvassing efforts- at natural gatherings.  This already goes on to some extent I realize (and maybe I don't know how much), but one thing that seems lacking in all of the effort from the party infrastructure is training people to naturally evangelize day-to-day.

This is actually what I think is the best part about the blogosphere, it teaches people the talking points, but also how to relate them into everyday language, everyday happenings- it teaches them how to fold political issues into everyday life.  Canvassing may or may not be dead, but a refocusing of canvassing as a mindset rather than an event could do wonders.


by Lucas O'Connor on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 01:42:47 PM EST
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Excellent point! (none / 0)

"Canvassing as a mindset rather than an event"  

Very well put!

Having done way more than my share of canvassing in 2004 (Kerry in NH & OH) and 2006 (Lamont), I too question its effectiveness--especially in the week right before the election.

I can name a few cases where we made a difference, but these were less persuasion than mainly getting voter reg. forms into the hands of supportive people who hadn't registered to vote yet (mainly because they moved).  Still, given the number of hours per success, canvassing doesn't feel very efficient.

I agree that campaigns need to do way more outreach at events such as music concerts/festivals, etc.  Setting up a table with free condoms and voter registration forms on a Saturday night in a nightclub district would probably work wonders.

And speaking as one who lives in blue neighborhood in a blue state (MA), folks in red/purple states have an opportunity to be genuinely effective that the rest of us don't by being locally active, which is much more effective.


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by Go Vegetarian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 02:18:08 PM EST
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LOL - campaign condoms - Great idea!!! Probably not in rural Tennessee, but maybe in urban areas.


by ProgressiveChristian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 04:29:13 PM EST
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While you can persaude people (to support you) at the door via canvasing and such, it's better and more typically used to focus on actually getting infrequent voters to actually go and vote.

GOTV efforts should only be about getting people that support you to the polls to vote. Ideally unless it's a special circumstance (special election, etc) you'd be able to mostly leave the super-voters (those that always vote no matter what) alone and focus on getting those that only vote occassionally to the polls.

I wholeheartedly disagree with those that have said that canvasing and phone banking is of no use and that it shouldn't be done. I do agree with the feeling behind that (and also expressed within this thread) that it doesn't seem to be being done in the most effective way possible.

At it's most effective contact should be on an ongoing basis by people who live in your community that you already know. That's friends, neighours, and those you work with along with the democratic committee people in your area. Microtargeting and tracking would take place so you could talk to people about issues that are of specific interest to them and you could track their responses over time.

Lists would be updated so no wrong or disconnected/moved numbers/addresses or and the personal issue data for each person you're calling would be available for tailored messages. You'd able to update the database on the fly with comments including not to knock or call them again or if they need an absentee ballot or ride to the poll. Election day you'd be able to track who has voted and who has not voted so you can only focus on those that haven't, etc.

These things are done to differing degrees with differing levels of success depending on the particular campaign. I think the better information you have and the more effectively you use it the better off you are. The more organic you can make the canvasing/phone banking effort the more successful it will be too. By organic I mean natural... people knocking doors in their own neighourhood talking to people they may even know about issues that they know in advance are relevant to them.


by Quinton on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 12:26:52 PM EST
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Actually, canvassing is the most effective GOTV. Check out Get Out the Vote! How to Increase Voter Turnout by Donald Green and Alan Gerber (professors of political science at Yale). They reviewed GOTV tests, and canvassing wins by far. Briefly, canvassing generates one vote per 14 contacts at approximately $19/vote, partisan leafletting (lit drops) yields one vote per 66 "contacts" at approximately $14/vote, and nonpartisan leafletting yields one vote per 200 at approximately $43/vote. They also review direct mail, phone and email.


by domma on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 12:57:45 PM EST

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Yes, I should get that book. But since you have a copy on hand...

Is that 1 of 14 figure broken down any further by demographics or campaign profile or is it an aggregate of multiple campaigns? I did a lit drop in East Cleveland in 2004 and got a much warmer reception than I did yesterday in suburban Long Island. Of the 30 or so contacts I made yesterday, I have my doubts as to whether I got 2 people to the polls that wouldn't have otherwise gone. Of course, I'm a lousy salesman anyway, so that colors my perspective.

I also wonder how universal that figure is when applied to a race like yesterday (or TN '06 or OH '04) where the electorate has already been engulfed in a seemingly endless fusillade of ads, calls and direct mail. I'd probably be pissed too, and I'm actually interested in this stuff


by ProgressiveChristian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 01:23:59 PM EST
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The one-of-fourteen rule is an aggregate of tests on multiple campaigns, ranging from municipal to federal mid-terms.


by domma on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 01:57:09 PM EST
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...And even if canvassing is tactically effective, I still have the concerns (raised in the diary) about the long-term effects of canvassing on the political environment. Again, I can't back it up with numbers, but the popular perception is that people hate politics - and canvassing may only reinforce that hatred, to the long-term detriment of the political process.


by ProgressiveChristian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 01:32:13 PM EST
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I would counter that any intrusive voter-contact method may reinforce the hatred of politics, which leaves us with no person-to-person contact methods.


by domma on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 02:08:12 PM EST
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That statement implies that all person-to-person contact methods are intrusive, which is not entirely true. Target-driven contact methods, such as booths/tables at county fairs or concert venues are not intrusive, although they are limited in their scale and applicability to GOTV efforts. Low pressure contact by neighbors or relatives is only mildly intrusive, although, as others have pointed out in the comments, building a social network based on neighbor-to-neighbor contact would require a substantial and prolonged effort that would be extremely difficult and, in many cases, impractical. Virtual (Internet-based) communities hold promise for mobilizing activists but may not scale to the point where they could be relied upon for GOTV.

I think this is a problem but I don't have a novel solution. Maybe there isn't one. But I would like to think the future belongs to someone who can find something better than sending us out to get screamed at by pissed-off suburban homeowners.


by ProgressiveChristian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 03:32:19 PM EST
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Ideally, we'd build networks of local volunteers who would canvass their own neighborhoods, so as to lessen the annoyance factor. That's hard to do, but not impossible. It's machine politics not on a precinct level, but on a neighborhood level. Or, a school district level: imagine teachers on a canvass targeting households with school-age children to discuss the election in regards to the local school and education policy. There are other ways of doing this (union members talking to other members), but it will require some heavy lifting on the front end.


by domma on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 02:18:52 PM EST
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My experience is that folks are a lot more polite and a lot more willing to talk to a live canvasser than to someone on the phone, for what that's worth.


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by Go Vegetarian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 02:19:43 PM EST
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I think it's more likely the flood of highly negeative ads on tv, radio, the robocalls and people not seeing much difference between the parties because of pro-corporatist democrats undermining what the democratic party really stands for that is more likely to turn people off.

Canvasing and calling has been a part of politics for many, many years now and everything hasn't fallen apart yet. I'd really argue things started getting worse when the grassroots efforts whithered and the parties turned to mass media instead.


by Quinton on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 12:29:52 PM EST
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Repeatedly canvassing the same (3.00 / 1)

people can be detrimental.  It can annoy them.  Accoridn gto my source, "50 Simple Things You can do to Fight the Right", paid callers have no affect, volunteer phone banks increase turnout by 2-5%, and volunteer canvassers increased turnout 12-15%.  I think that has been revised down some, but its still more effective than other methods.
Canvassing is awful.  But its a lot better than phoning.  And more effective.  Keep your chin up.
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by jallen on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 01:55:42 PM EST

Try googling instead of diarying (3.00 / 1)

I just googled "canvassing effectiveness" and got multiple links right on the first page to randomized field experiments documenting the impacts of canvassing for voter turnout.  

You raise a lot of theoretical questions that are not answered in these links, but a really good place to start your conversation would be some of the exceptionally solid research that does provide some practical answers.  This research has been done over multiple cycles in a variety of environments, with different types of canavssers, that compares it to many different phone and other approaches for voter turnout.  Some of this was mentioned in other comments, but such a thoughtfull attempt to ask some questions should have begun with a discussion of the readily available answers.

No doubt there is a lot of research that has been done that is not public, which help guide campaign decisions.

I am biased.  I don't think "canvassing is aweful".  I enjoy talking to people.  I enjoy learning about people.  I am not surprised that the whole world does not agree with me or does not have the same priorities as me.  So, I kind of like walking around a new neighborhood on a brisk fall day and engaging with the world around me as random as it can be.

Those that don't want to canvass shouldn't.  Some people just don't like it at a purely personal comfort level.  My advice to you and those people is to do something else.  (unless it is blogging about canvassing - ha ha, couldn't resist a poke for fun).

My advice to campaigns, keep canvassing - especially in the last week according to the reseach published by David Nickerson in 2006 (google "Canvassing effectiveness" to get more info.)


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by Orlando on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 02:37:07 PM EST

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You're right that I could have done a bit more research before writing. But I had such an awful experience yesterday that I had to find out if I'm alone on this one. The feedback in the comment chain has been helpful and I think there's value in a community discussion, even if it doesn't make the front page.

Yes, I shouldn't have gone canvassing and I won't in the future. But I want to help and most of the volunteer work that seems to need to be done is this invasive stuff. There's only so much office and logistic work to be done and they have staffers for that.

And I'm still not entirely convinced that the negative reaction to incessant campaigning, at least in the high-profile campaigns, doesn't have negative consequences down the line. Negative ads work too, but they drag everyone down with them.


by ProgressiveChristian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 03:47:31 PM EST
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Literature Drops: It's canvassing without some of the invasive baggage. On a pleasant weekend day when folks are out in the yard, there are some opportunities for direct contact, but the target remains in control of the interaction. Many folks find fliers on their doorknobs annoying, but certainly less than a knock on the door that interrupts dinner, a video or a phone conversation. Wouldn't an early-morning flier on a car windshield reminding a voter to vote engender less hostility than a dinnertime interruption?

Lit drops are worthless.


by adamterando on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 02:48:59 PM EST

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The data seems to be on your side. All I can say is that I had some excellent conversations with folks while doing lit drops in East Cleveland in '04, and I got almost nothing but hostility knocking on doors on Long Island in '07. Could be the radical differences between the cultures in those two communities too. Don't know if I actually did any good in either situation.


by ProgressiveChristian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 04:20:20 PM EST
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Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? (none / 0)

Here's some data.

http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/PAE/readapae/ Friedrichs.pdf


by adamterando on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 02:49:21 PM EST

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Great link - thank you. I stand by my long-term concerns but its helpful to see some serious studies demonstrating the surprising effectiveness of canvassing, at least in a situation like the youth vote in the 2002 Michigan mid-term. Come to think of it, the people that were yelling at me yesterday were all older middle-aged. Hmmm...


by ProgressiveChristian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 04:13:53 PM EST
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And people who try to live their lives by the golden rule will not canvass and telemarket when they don't want to be canvassed or telemarketed to themselves.

Sorry I don't buy this. We live in a democracy. And democracy requires eternal vigiliance to keep those in power from ruining the country. I'm sorry if people don't like to be bothered, but they need to be bothered. There is too much injustice, suffering, and poverty to let people off the hook. I believe it is wrong to NOT interrupt people in their homes and shake them out of their warm coccoons while they wathc American Idol. People need to realize that there are major problems in this world that we all have a responsibility to address, even if it interrupts their dinner.

We're not selling anything. We're reminding them that there's more that's required of them to live in a democracy than just sitting on the couch.


by adamterando on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 02:54:55 PM EST

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I agree too. There are people in more than half of the world that die to be able to have the right to talk to their neighbors about their beliefs and get them to take action.


by gobears on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 03:55:06 PM EST
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Point taken. I guess tough love works with some people. But my concern is that if you antagonize people by violating their personal space, it causes them to wrap themselves even more tightly. A major economic collapse or a military draft would wake folks up really quick. But I'd like to think that there's a better way.


by ProgressiveChristian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 03:55:54 PM EST
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But my concern is that if you antagonize people by violating their personal space, it causes them to wrap themselves even more tightly.

That happens, but you reach far more people where that is not the case. So you turn off some people with canvassing. Ok, well you can try one of the non-obtrusive ways to contact them then. But that doesn't mean you should scrap the most effective way to communicate with your neighbors. We should do both/all methods. Canvassing is the best method though and it also works better when it is done on a regular basis so that people are used to it and especially when it is normally done by neighbors.


by adamterando on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 04:25:37 PM EST
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Multifarious, voter-specific campaign techniques implemented by grassroots neighborhood activists and coordinated through the Internet with micro-targeting. I'm sold. Let me know when you want to start and I'll help you build the database!


by ProgressiveChristian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 04:35:36 PM EST
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Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? (none / 0)

The issue is more whether or not there are more effective ways to make the important points.


by Lucas O'Connor on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 04:04:53 PM EST
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Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? (3.00 / 3)

There are a lot of answers to this question, and they depend on who's doing what, when,and where.

As a candidate, I've rung thousands of doorbells over two election cycles, had other people do this for me, mailed, and dropped literature.

In my experience, the most effective canvassing is by a candidate, working in tandem with someone from the neighborhood, working with a walk list, preferably talking about a local issue, well in advance of the election. Dropping literature to the houses where nobody answers with a hand-written note is also worthwhile. There's a real multiplier effect from this technique, in part because you get to meet the people who influence their neighbors about how to vote.

After dark, the effectiveness of any door-to-door operation drops by an order of magnitude. Don't do it. Curiously, the middle of a weekday finds a lot of high-propensity voters at home in my city - seniors, a few stay at home moms, a lot of people who work out of their homes, and are happy for a quick break.

Second most effective are volunteer teams of people from a neighborhood working together for a candidate. And there are some people who are good at this, with the ability to be disarming, humble, and sincere, as well as persuasive, while most people just can't do this well.

I've tracked the results, precinct by precinct, and have charted the results, where door-to-door contact is the most effective single strategy, and one that has an added benefit of learning what's important to your constituents.

It's also great to carry voter registration forms all the time, so you can bring new people into the process.

For last minute GOTV, the best strategy really requires a lot of work, where you have someone checking the list at the poll to see who hasn't voted, comparing it with the list of "one"s, then making sure that your supporters are contacted by a precinct captain who has already made contact with them.

Sending paid strangers into a neighborhood with scripts, or sending people in after most voters have voted absentee or in person has marginal results.

I've seen some very effective literature drops, and a lot of stuff that isn't effective.

I've been surprised at the effectiveness of ads in my local weekly newspaper, the place where people go to get their news on the local crimes, schools, and youth sports.

Your results may vary, and there are definitely craft elements and highly local variables as well as any science.


by Aeolus on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 05:26:24 PM EST

Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? (3.00 / 1)

I'll add one incredibly important note from my personal experience, not only from my one losing losing and two wins, but also from participating on other people's campaigns,and research.

With any campaign, you know how many votes you need, and you have a plan for exactly where and how you are going to get them, and what it's going to cost.

On a national level, there will be campaigns that are run as part of a fifty state strategy that have a low probability of winning, but to tie up your opponent's resources, and some of these may win.


by Aeolus on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 05:46:53 PM EST
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Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? (none / 0)

Thank you for the calm reflections borne of bitter struggles.

I am still curious about how the effects of canvassing and phone-banking can be assessed within the context of a live campaign that has only one point of evaluation on election day. There are so many variables that finding a control group seems impossible. I would imagine that one charismatic precinct captain with an enthusiastic crew would have radically different results than an average captain just a few blocks away. If you phone-bank one neighborhood and not another, can you say with strong certainty that the phone-banking yielded the extra percentage of votes in the banked neighborhood?

And if campaigning is more craft and instinct than science, is it completely valid to use academic studies as a defense for campaign techniques that are so discomfiting to many of us? Each campaign seems to be a unique artistic creation where there are few broad generalizations that can be applied to widely varying conditions in different situations.

I am comforted by your mention of the importance of the clock in canvassing. Although most of the people in my neighborhood weren't home during the day, the afternoon contacts were considerably more pleasant than the post-4:30 crowd. I was scheduled to start another pass at 6PM (after dark) of the folks that hadn't voted and I now feel some vindication in following my instinct and fleeing the neighborhood instead.


by ProgressiveChristian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 09:53:08 PM EST
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Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? (none / 0)

Progressive Christian,

Please go back and read the literature that has been refered to in the comments here.  The results on canvassing and phone banks are done with control groups and are very scientific.

Here is basically how it works.   From a universe of 30,000 voters a control group of voters is randomly selected.  Maybe 3-5,000.  Those voters are not touched, then several other treatment groups are established, some who will get a knock on the door, maybe some who get a phone call.

The voter contacts are done only from the list.  It is assumed and designed that any other campaign activity in the universe is equal across the various groups as the universe has common characteristics and the treatment and control groups are selected at random.  

After the election, researchers go to the voter rolls and match up who voted and who did not with the data base of voter contacts from the test.

Using this data, analysists can identify what the discrete impacts of the various treatments was when compared to the control group.


Don't hate the media, become the media. -- Jello Biafra
by Orlando on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 08:59:15 AM EST
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Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? YES! (3.00 / 0)

Speaking for myself, I don't do canvassing or phone banking.  My brief experience with canvassing (both paid and volunteer) and phone banking (volunteer) left me feeling uneasy and somewhat dirty after the whole experience, especially after phone banking and getting response after response like this typical one:
"I was under the sink fixing the pipes when you called and had to spend a minute crawling out to answer the phone, and yes I already voted and don't call me again (click)."

I am glad to volunteer for such things as data entry and sign waving on the corner.  Those are worthwhile and effective activities.

I don't want to hear excuses that a phone call or canvasser knocking on a door is harmless - it is not harmless but a major nuisance if somebody gets multiple calls and visits during the last few weeks before an election, from multiple candidates and issue groups all wanting their vote.  This especially goes for robo-calling, with anecdotal stories coming out of the last election of people unable to place outgoing emergency medical calls or elderly people unable to receive incoming calls because their phones were ringing off the hook with robo-calls which automatically redialed the same number if the person hung up.  We denounced the Republicans for using those despicable robo-calling tactics, but really, are excessive canvassing and cold calling any better?

If we truly want a progressive society, such a society would be one in which tactics like robo-calling, phone banking, canvassing, junk mail, spam email, millions of dollars spent on hateful and negative TV ads, and cluttering up the side of the road with thousands of ugly plastic signs are not needed to win elections.  We're in a catch-22 right now - the Republicans do those things so we have to do those same things to keep up the same candidate visibility, or at least think we do.

Part of the problem is the anonymous, community-less society we now live in.  All of those things I mentioned are symptoms of the fact that we no longer know our neighbors, and we no longer have the sort of local social networks that once functioned as nearly effortless GOTV machines.  We all knew that union members would turn out to vote and most of them would vote the right way -- well, if most peoples' social lives are no longer ordered around activities at the union hall, but rather on which of 2000 cable channels they watch, there is no longer any kind of social cohesion, while the Republicans have co-opted the one social network of this sort that arguably still exists (evangelical churches).  Somebody can go to work, spend an hour each way commuting, come home, watch television and surf the Internet before bed, and yet have no social life apart from who they interact with at work and online -- and unless they are political junkies watching C-SPAN or reading political blogs, not even have a clue that an election is coming up or who the candidates are.

I would just as soon see the anonymous McFastFood approaches to campaigning (junk mail, spam, robo-calling, phone banking, signs sprouting like poison mushrooms along public roadways) made illegal, and severe limits placed on TV ads.  But we are also going to have to bring back some kind of community in this country.  We don't have it now.


by Old Yeller on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 05:32:06 PM EST

Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? YES! (3.00 / 1)

Old Yeller do you really still need to call canvassing dirty. If you do not want to do it yourself, than fine do not do it.

You post say that you think canvassing is ineffective because of your personal experience, which I guess is more important than all of the scholarly work that says it is the most effective.

Just please stop calling people that canvass dirty and get better arguments against canvassing.


by gobears on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 06:01:16 PM EST
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Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? YES! (none / 0)

Cold calling is intrusive. When I worked for one of Nader's follower's environmental organizations as a door to door canvasser, I felt dirty too with the knocking on stranger's doors and asking for money. It seems like such an intrusive way of reaching people. I think only certain people have the charm and speaking talent to get away with this tactic and only they should be used.

I always found pairing a good looking woman/man with a person who may lack in the looks department, but has a charismatic way of speaking always seems to work better in these kind of door to door cold call strategies.


by Pravin on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 10:18:24 AM EST
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Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? YES! (none / 0)

Funny you should mention that...I was thinking last night that I might have had more success (at least with the men) if I were a perky 20-something blonde. I wonder if walking with a small dog might have a similar disarming effect. It's hard to hate on someone with a cute beagle.

Putting it all together, the combination of an attractive girl, her policy-wonk boyfriend and a terrier (wearing a miniature campaign t-shirt) canvassing a known neighborhood on a warm spring weekend afternoon would be a winner :+)


by ProgressiveChristian on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 10:37:01 AM EST
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Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? YES! (none / 0)

Is it dirty or do you not like it?

Most people are not good at it fine, but you give no real reason why it is dirty apart from it being intrusive.

If you did not like it then fine, I just do not understand demeaning those who have helped the progressive movement by canvassing whether it is for money or not.


by gobears on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 04:51:34 PM EST
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Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? YES! (none / 0)

I said I felt dirty. A subjective feeling. I just feel like I bothered people going about their own work. I would prefer organizing events luring people to show up. Also I feel uncomfortable asking for money. I have seen people try to guilttrip me into donating and i hate it.

If you are a natural at it, and you have a way of making people feel like it is not an intrusion, then we should limit canvassing to people like you.


by Pravin on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 03:12:17 AM EST
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Stop insulting political contact (3.00 / 1)

Agreed.  Why are people so down on something that is so core to activism and people.  why are people against contact with the outside world?  Should the freedom riders sat on their ass at Northwestern and talked to only their friends and neighbors?

Political discourse involves a little disturbing of things and I am fine with that.  Take your plumbing neighbor guy that Old Yeller is concerned about.  What an ass that person is to be so rude to you,  but it doesn't make the effort on your part rude.  The person could have let the machine get it.  Could have been polite about the inconvenience as I am sure you were.

Even if you had been a neighbor calling and causing the same inconvenience, would his reaction have been any different - and does that matter.  The first time a neighbor talks to a neighbor, they are strangers disturbing eachother if you will.  

Reaching out and talking to people who are different, people who are not engaged already, people who mighgt find greater comfort with greater seclusion, all of those are great things and we should celebrate the people who do it.  

Not disparage them as "dirty".


Don't hate the media, become the media. -- Jello Biafra
by Orlando on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 06:19:39 PM EST

Re: Stop insulting political contact (3.00 / 1)

In defense of Old Yeller (who can probably defend him/herself), s/he did not call canvassing dirty, s/he called the feeling s/he got from canvassing dirty. For alot of us, having a conversation such as this one (nearly verbatim) from my last day of phone banking in '04 makes you feel something. Maybe dirty isn't the right word, call it what you want.

ME: Hi, I'm calling from the Wes Clark campaign...

HIM: I TOLD YOU NEVER TO CALL ME AGAIN! WHO GAVE YOU MY NUMBER? WHO GAVE YOU MY NUMBER??!!!

ME: Uh, it's on a list I was given of...

HIM: TAKE ME OFF YOUR LIST...DO YOU HEAR ME? TAKE ME OFF YOUR LIST! (click)

Did that call have any affect on the short- or long-term voting patterns of that gentleman? Was he a potential Clark voter anyway? I can't say for sure. Yes, political campaigning has always had an ugly side and the pro-phonebank folks have the studies on their side. But after a few experiences like that, you can't fault me for asking if there is a way of avoiding conversations like that.

Until then, you can probably rest assured that you won't be getting a phonebank call or canvassing visit from me or Old Yeller :+(


by ProgressiveChristian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 06:34:11 PM EST
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Re: Stop insulting political contact (2.00 / 1)

Old Yeller has said far worse thing in the past.

Read the following commment in this post

http://wwww.mydd.com/comments/2006/11/30 /1408/6965/20/post#here

The following is the worst line:

Anyone who doesn't feel filthy inside after a few evenings of that (canvassing) either doesn't have a heart or should take up panhandling as a profession.

This makes me so angry I could write for days on the amount of BS in that statement.


by gobears on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 06:49:08 PM EST
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Re: Stop insulting political contact (none / 0)

To be fair, the Old Yeller comment you linked to is specific to a fundraising canvass. Fundraising canvasses and GOTV canvasses are quite different.


by domma on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 07:13:13 PM EST
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Re: Stop insulting political contact (none / 0)

But this makes me wonder whether Old Yeller is talking about fundraising canvasses or volunteer GOTV cancasses.


John McCain will privatize social security.
by gunnar on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 08:48:57 PM EST
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Re: Stop insulting political contact (none / 0)

Trespassing is trespassing is trespassing.  

Couldn't we come up with a better model for political activism?  Or to put it another way, if doing these things is necessary in the first place to raise funds, GOTV or whatever, then maybe our society is majorly screwed up to begin with.  

This doesn't just go for political activism, it goes for everything:

  • Being unable to mail a simple package at the post office without the clerk grilling you with 3 minutes of mandatory questioning ("would you like to upgrade to Priority Mail for just $1.30 more?  Are you sure?  It'll get there a day faster.  Insurance against loss or damage?  Would you like to buy stationary or a teddy bear with that?  You can't send this media mail if it has any correspondance in it, may I inspect what's inside?")  What CRAP.
  • Being unable to join any group without finding your mailbox filled with junk mail from about 50 other groups that comes every day and doesn't stop.  I have just spent the past six months trying to get myself off mailing lists and the junk mail still hasn't let up - it was my mistake joining these "environmental" and "civil liberties" groups to begin with, since their main activity seems to be selling their mailing lists to other groups, who in turn sell their mailing lists...
  • Making the mistake of signing online petitions by the likes of People for the American Way, only to find myself getting fundraising calls from them on my cell phone asking for donations.  How did they get my number?  You figure it out.  You don't think any one of these online petitions actually gets delivered to your elected officials do you?  I did, but I learned the hard way.
  • Buy anything online and you get added to another spam list.  Half the time their "opt out" or "communication preferences" functions don't work and the spam keeps coming, or your preference gets automatically reset without your knowledge back to "yes, send me tons o'spam" every few months or so.
  • I hook up a new landline in N. Virginia and find myself getting upwards of 8 robo-calls a day, from everyone from Verizon trying to sell me more services and the Post trying to sell me a subscription to a collection agency looking for the former owner of the phone number.  I get sick of this going on day after day and have the number shut back off after 2 months, forfeiting the huge fee I paid to have the service turned on in the first place.

If any of you want to defend phone banking and canvassing without realizing that those things are contributing to the problem, I feel very sorry for you.


by Old Yeller on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 09:27:22 PM EST
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Re: Stop insulting political contact (none / 0)

Calm down, life is short.


by gobears on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 11:19:29 PM EST
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Important points (3.00 / 1)

You make some interesting points, which are applicable not only to the political process, but also to advertising, customer service, and other forms of human contact.

As campaigns have proliferated, and each channel of communication has been vastly over-utilized, there are two painfully obvious effects. First is the rapidly diminishing value of any given contact, whether it be direct mail, calls, or canvassing. Here in California, one of the reasons why absentee voting continues to gain in popularity is because voters can tune out everything after they have voted.

Second is the growing, and to my mind, intentional voter suppression that is created by the offensive nature of campaigns. I've long believed that the Republican theocons figured out that one of their best tactics against any populist campaign was to convince low-information voters that their votes didn't matter. If you have a loyal group of theocratic voters, who will turn out regardless of what happens, it's in your interest to make the process as dirty, repugnant, and as alienating as possible. Let voters think that the parties are alike, that their vote won't count or won't be counted, and you make another step towards your political domination, as long as you can continue to motivate your base with fears, smears,and queers.


by Aeolus on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 11:54:45 AM EST
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Re: Important points (none / 0)

I'd never heard about saturation campaigning as a motivator for absentee voting, but that little nugget just adds to my inclination toward Oregon-style mail-in balloting. Yes, I know it's got problems (and will probably never happen nationally), but it's seems like a more reasonable process than dealing with the cost, complexity and chaos of in-person voting. Disables alot of organized election-day GOTV techniques, but if the parties get lists of people who have been mailed ballots (and lists of ballots that have been returned?) the final-weekend GOTV (GITV?) can be more focused (and less invasive?).

As for the Republican vote suppression (tm) techniques, I don't know how to stop that in a free society other than continuing to build a progressive infrastructure to get a positive message out.


by ProgressiveChristian on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 12:15:22 PM EST
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Re: Stop insulting political contact (3.00 / 1)

For anyone that may be reading this that hasn't canvassed or phone banked before, my experiencing canvassing and phone banking has been quite different from ProgressiveChristians' experience.  I was actually surprised by how most people respond positively.  

I too was concerned that I would be invading people's privacy.  I am also a little introverted and going up and knocking on a stranger's door wasn't my idea of fun.  But after four years of Bush, I was desperate enough to phone bank and after six years of Bush, I tried canvassing in this last election.  

And I really liked canvassing.  I thought that I made a difference with at least a few people that I made contact with.  Even Republicans that somehow found their way onto our target list were polite in their refusal to engage me in a discussion on the upcoming election.  A few people simply said they weren't interested, but they were a tiny minority.  A lot of people thanked me for helping to get out the vote.  At the end of the day, on both days, I was happy and invigorated.  I will continue to canvass in future elections and recommend it to others.      


John McCain will privatize social security.
by gunnar on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 09:37:57 PM EST
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Re: Stop insulting political contact (none / 0)

I congratulate you on finding good situations and hope all your future campaigns are as positive. It's been interesting to read about the variety of strongly-held feelings on this topic. I have not been so lucky and since canvassing seems to be here to stay, I guess I will just have to search for tasks that align more carefully with my skill set and do not reopen old battle wounds.


by ProgressiveChristian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 10:05:02 PM EST
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Re: Stop insulting political contact (none / 0)

I understand your decision.  Part of your bad experience may be the area you were canvassing or poor organization at the ground level.  I was working on a targeted list of swing voters and Democrats and for the most part, it was a solid list of people who supported or might support the Democratic Party.  I was also a volunteer.  I felt this made a big difference and learned to pause after saying "I am a volunteer" to let those words sink in before continuing with "for the Democratic party."  I think being a volunteer makes a significant difference to most people you are approaching.


John McCain will privatize social security.
by gunnar on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 10:20:55 PM EST
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Re: Stop insulting political contact (none / 0)

I think this is a charitable interpretation.  After reading all the comments here I think the anti-canvassing posters are bringing a lot of their own baggage to the experience.  This is just my opinion but I can't help feeling that any number of people come away from a similar experience canvassing or phone banking and tell a very different story.  

I spent several nights at a volunteer phone bank for Moveon doing their calling program and you could clearly see fellow callers ending a shift and telling their own story in a way that told you a lot more about them than what they experienced on the phone.  Not better, not worse, but this is people reacting to people and all reacting differently.


Don't hate the media, become the media. -- Jello Biafra
by Orlando on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 09:09:49 AM EST
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Re: Stop insulting political contact (none / 0)

It depends on how hot button the issue is. If I am doing a standard canvass asking for donations for a regular political campaign, I am not comfortable. Civil rights was pretty hardcore violation back then. That is a mobilization for a movement. I have gone around mobilizing people to do things on my campus when I was in school.

Plus, it is about how we feel. I dont think anyone said you should feel dirty for doing so.


by Pravin on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 03:14:59 AM EST
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Re: Stop insulting political contact (none / 0)

From the tenor of the comments here, we seem to have stumbled on a fairly emotional topic. The folks who are die-hard canvassing supporters seem quite sensitive to criticism of the tactic, which would lead me to believe that having strangers scream at them and slam doors in their face has had a deeper effect on them than they might care to discuss.

All that being said, the evidence seems to be that some kind of at least mildly-invasive person-to-person contact is necessary to conduct a viable campaign. And when it's done "right" in a targeted fashion, the number of screaming meanies seems to be reduced, although, as with baseball, you get more outs than hits, even on a good day. Some people just deal with that reality better than you and me.

And if you can figure out a non-invasive replacement for canvassing that gets even remotely similar results, you will have the eternal gratitude of the nation :+)


by ProgressiveChristian on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 11:28:18 AM EST
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Re: No Canvassing Is Not a Waste of Time (3.00 / 3)

It sounds like you've decided what you don't like to do, and want someone to say that what you like to do works.  Unfortunately, what you like to do does not work.

1. The academic studies show canvassing is the most effective way to get people out to vote.  Like someone else said, Green and Gerber is the best.

2. Academic studies show frequent contact raises people's likelihood of voting, even when they say they're sick of it.

3. Academic studies show people lie (to themselves and to other people) about whether or not they vote, so doing things that don't drill in how important it is to vote aren't likely to work.

If you don't like talking to people, maybe the best way for you to help is by giving money, which the campaign can then use to talk to people.


by SteveWFP on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 07:21:06 PM EST

Re: No Canvassing Is Not a Waste of Time (3.00 / 0)

Yes, I must reluctantly admit that you are correct in your assessment of my motivations and following this thread has been very helpful for putting my feelings into context. Unfortunately, I do not have the Political Science background to make any positive or negative critique of the cited studies and publications that were produced by folks well above my pay grade.

However, nothing I've seen here assuages my concern about the larger societal effect of canvassing and phone-banking within the saturation campaigning that grows more prevalant with each $100 million of growth in campaign spending. Everything you state represents research within the context of current campaign technique and seems to be focused on immediate results rather than long-term issues in a dynamic cultural environment. Maybe there isn't a better way, but does it hurt to ask if there is?

It's not that I don't like talking to people. It's that I (and many other folks that have contributed to this thread) don't like being yelled at by people we sympathize with. We want to make a positive, personal contribution to the short- and long-term effort that is more than simply giving money. Maybe you're right that I should just shut up and donate, but I'd like to think there's something that us "sympathetic" folks can do, even if it's not as efficient as the techniques used by you phone warriors.


by ProgressiveChristian on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 09:29:35 PM EST
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Re: No Canvassing Is Not a Waste of Time (none / 0)

Let me assure you that not every campaign saturates voters.  Most campaigns don't have the money to saturate voters, and they provide ample evidence that talking to people more makes them more likely to vote, not less, even if they say they feel like they're being contacted to much.


by SteveWFP on Thu Feb 22, 2007 at 05:49:08 PM EST
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Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? (3.00 / 1)

After 12 years of political activism as a campaign volunteer, finally last year, I decided NOT to engage in phonebanking, because I believe that bothering people during the dinner hour is a lousy way to get votes.  I have never been happy with the scripts I am given...and no matter how they promised I would be given Democratic lists, they were always swing voter lists.

On the other hand, I have done door to door canvassing in my own city of Los Angeles, as well as out of state...and to my surprise, I really enjoyed the face to face experience, talking to...and registering voters.


by nanorich on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 07:23:49 PM EST

No! (3.00 / 2)

Next question.


by Paul Rosenberg on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 07:37:51 PM EST

Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? (3.00 / 1)

I would be really seriously pissed if I found a flier on my windshield, especially if it was at my home. It feels invasive to me, like someone was messing with my property.

I agree with your phone-banking and canvassing experiences. I've never liked that stuff for the reasons you mention, and its really hard for a no-name like myself to get seriously involved with a campaign if a person isn't willing to do cold calls.  


by mihan on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 07:40:22 PM EST

Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? (none / 0)

Maybe so... maybe no.


Invest in nature
by NCDem on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 12:57:22 AM EST

Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? (none / 0)

I asked the same question a while ago and got the same answer quoting the Gerber and Green work.  I haven't seen any direct quote from Gerber and Green (or other scientific polling work) that anonymous canvassing and phone calls are effective.

The quote from a review notes that "They discover that many GOTV tactics used by campaign managers and political consultants are less effective than is often believed."

But it doesn't say which of the GOTV tactics work and which don't.

Like you, I hate people knocking on my door or calling me to sell something and would never do it to somebody else.

The only time I thought it was effective was when the candidate themselves did it and I wonder if that is what they found to be effective.


by BrionLutz on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 09:14:23 AM EST

Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? (none / 0)

I found the Gerber/Green website this morning and got some more details about their canvassing research, which seems to involve group canvassing, not candidate canvassing. Not sure if it's the exact same stuff that's in the book, but their results are from 1998 in CT and 2000/2001 in a group of geographically-disparate mid-size cities. The 2000/2001 studies were specifically targeting young voters. The efforts seem to have been relatively well structured both from in terms of campaign coordination and randomized research methodology, although the site does not give information at a very fine level of detail.

Given all that, the environment that the studies were conducted in seems to have been conducive to obtaining optimal results. A sub-optimal situation like the one I was in Tuesday (and like many others in this thread seem to have been in) certainly produces a less-pleasant outcome.

In the middle of this thread, there is a long comment by a candidate (I assume local or state level) who has won a couple of elections with canvassing and swears by it...when it's done right.

Regardless, I'm still with you in feeling that I don't want someone doing it to me, so I'm not going to do it to someone else...at least no time soon :+(


by ProgressiveChristian on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 10:58:49 AM EST
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The No Intrusion Rules of Engagement (none / 0)

No emails unless the voter has already contacted the campaign to request information.

No TV ads on public airwaves (maybe an exception during news shows where there is reasonable expectation, but why on earth are we bothering people during Wheel of Fortune with ads about the Iraq War).

No phone calls unless the voter has contacted the campaign to request more information or more help getting to the polls.

No canvassing contacts unless the voter has contacted the campaign to request more information or more help getting to the polls. (maybe an exception for neighbors who have already told their neighbors they are interested to hear from them about politics).  This general prohibition would include visits by the candidate.

No fundraising calls, letters, emails, etc. unless there is an opt-in from the voter.

No campaign mail clogging up mailboxes and wasting trees unless specific educational materials have been requested (although, really people who are not able to get this info online probably should not be voting anyway).

Any web based, blog based communication where the voter / donor decided themselves to visit the site is appropriate.

Any campaign outreach through the MSM is also ok, as voters are generally opting in to this source of information and the MSM can reliably be trusted to give equal time, fair and balanced treatment to all sides of a campaign or issue.

Now the rules are set we can go forth in a peaceful, harmonious, non-intrusive way of campaigning.  The benefits of this low-impact method will be a general appreciation for privacy respected and therefor a higher level of engagement and generally warmer feelings about politics.


Don't hate the media, become the media. -- Jello Biafra
by Orlando on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 09:21:19 AM EST

Re: The No Intrusion Rules of Engagement (3.00 / 1)

I'm not sure whether your list of rules is intended to be satirical, but it would probably terminate 90% of what we now consider to be campaign activity. Not that it would be a bad thing, but you're going to have to offer a positive alternative on how to reach the 97% of the electorate that doesn't read DailyKos - something I am at a loss to do.

The list is also impractical from an implementation standpoint. Only the most radical court would allow any legal implementation of the list to get past the first amendment. If a party or candidate were to disarm unilaterally, I'm not sure the groundswell of appreciation from the libertarians (who don't like to swell in public) would be enough to counter the complete loss of messaging capability by the adopting side.

Oh great...now you have me arguing in favor of canvassing :+(


by ProgressiveChristian on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 11:12:48 AM EST
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No, the result would be that many fewer people would vote and if one side followed anything like those guidelines they'd be decimated at the polls. Agree with ProgressiveChristian below also.

Your comment saying that if people can't get info online themselves then they shouldn't be voting anyway is absurd. What about those who are older who may not be comfortable with technology (the 60+ crowded that makes up the vast majority of the always votes crowd) and those that cannot afford a computer and internet access and cannot find time to make use of limited library internet terminals due to their multiple jobs, kids, school, life, etc. Lovely for you to want to leave them out of the process.


by Quinton on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 12:13:08 PM EST
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"Now the rules are set we can go forth in a peaceful, harmonious, non-intrusive way of campaigning.  The benefits of this low-impact method will be a general appreciation for privacy respected and therefor a higher level of engagement and generally warmer feelings about politics."

Please show me how your first statement about privacy respected translates directly into greater levels of engagement.

All my experience and evidence shows that the majority of people won't get involved unless someone asks them, which, by necessity, requires some kind of "intrusion".

I know of no research that shows that leaving people alone actually boosts turnout in elections or campaign volunteers or anything that might conceivably be called "engagement".

If that were the case, why would we do any of the stuff we do on campaigns?


by nathanhj on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 02:47:15 PM EST
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Methinks there was some irony intended here.


by red clay dem on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 06:51:01 PM EST
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Then I was just being tone deaf as usual... mea culpa.


by nathanhj on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 08:02:34 PM EST
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I know you are being sarcastic, but there is a big difference between tv ads and answering the door/phone when you are in the midst of work or relaxing. You can switch from a tv ad, and you can always ignore campaign literature without having to mentally prepare to hang up on someone or ask someone to leave your house because you are busy.

Unless it is an issue of vital importance to someone(that is a judgement call the canvasser has to make to determine if the majority in the neighborhood would be interested in learning more about it from a canvasser), I would rather go to websites or stop at political booths at gatherings on my own time.  


by Pravin on Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 03:19:54 AM EST
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My personal opinion, as someone who took part in basically all of these activities for the Dean campaign in New Hampshire, as well as canvassing for a congressional campaign in 2004, is that canvassing may in fact be a waste of time.  I agree that many people find it intrusive and may be turned off by strangers trudging up to their door.  If you have neighbors willing to target people in their 2 or 3 block radius, fine, but sending out armies of canvassers does not have as good an effect as it should.  

Personally I agree that a simple literature drop is more effective.  You get the information in the voters hands without pissing any of them off, you cover more houses much faster, and you still show that you have supporters eager and devoted enough to go door to door.  As "domma" noted in her initial post about "Get Out the Vote! How to Increase Voter Turnout" by Donald Green and Alan Gerber the cost per vote from a lit drop is $14 per vote, compared to $19 per vote for canvassing.    So lit drops are a more cost-effective way to win votes.

Not to mention these statistics tell us how many votes these tactics EARN, it does not similarly analyze how many votes can be lost by each tactic.


by BringtheFight on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 12:28:56 PM EST

Re: Is Canvassing a Waste of Time? (none / 0)

The very fact of analyzing votes earned also analyses votes lost. If the analysis produced negative numbers it would indicate votes lost. This is not the case.

All these techniques gain votes. The real question is do they gain votes FOR YOUR CANDIDATE? That question is unasnwered in these studies, which are exclusively of non-partisan GOTV efforts.

Also, if you see my comment below you will see that while canvassing is more expensive that lit drops, it requires fewer contacts to produce a new voter. So you get more voters with a canvass than a lit drop if you do them both to-scale.


by nathanhj on Thu Feb 08, 2007 at 02:43:23 PM EST
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